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Finding a better naming convention for prereleases

lasconic
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Since the release of 0.9.5, I built only one windows prerelease. As for 0.9.4, I named the installation file 0.9.5r1552 and uploaded it to http://prereleases.musescore.org.
For ubuntu, Toby Smithe made a special repository to host the last prereleases: https://launchpad.net/~mscore-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
The about box labels the version as 0.9.5.

On the forum, there are a lot of questions like "0.9.5 is out!?" "Where is it ?" etc... and a lot of talking about 0.9.5: http://musescore.org/fr/search/node/0.9.5
I'm not sure this is good. Apparently, people don't get that it's not a "stable" version. So I wonder if we should change the naming convention for prerelease, maybe get "0.9.5" out of the file name and the about box. And stick with "prereleases" or keep 0.9.5 but use "0.9.5alpha" or "0.9.5prerelease" ?

Any thoughts ?


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Re: Finding a better naming convention for prereleases

Thomas Bonte
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It has to be something easy to write down: 0.9.x or 0.9-dev

On the other hand, I'm thinking to link this problem with the issue labeling for forum posts. Instead of user writing down 0.9.x in the actual post, we can push it via a version label where you can optionally select from.

I agree we should solve this because it becomes very confusing.

lasconic wrote
Since the release of 0.9.5, I built only one windows prerelease. As for
0.9.4, I named the installation file 0.9.5r1552 and uploaded it to
http://prereleases.musescore.org.
For ubuntu, Toby Smithe made a special repository to host the last
prereleases: https://launchpad.net/~mscore-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
The about box labels the version as 0.9.5.

On the forum, there are a lot of questions like "0.9.5 is out!?" "Where is
it ?" etc... and a lot of talking about 0.9.5:
http://musescore.org/fr/search/node/0.9.5
I'm not sure this is good. Apparently, people don't get that it's not a
"stable" version. So I wonder if we should change the naming convention for
prerelease, maybe get "0.9.5" out of the file name and the about box. And
stick with "prereleases" or keep 0.9.5 but use "0.9.5alpha" or
"0.9.5prerelease" ?

Any thoughts ?

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Re: Finding a better naming convention for prereleases

wschweer
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In reply to this post by lasconic
Maybe using the label 0.9.5 for prereleases is a mistake.
I would prefer using only the svn revision numbers for prereleases,
like mscore-r1552. The "0.9.5" should also be removed from the about box and
the version string.
An additional "alpha" or "beta" tag could be a hint, that these releases are
considered less stable.

/Werner
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 09:14:35 Lasconic wrote:

> Since the release of 0.9.5, I built only one windows prerelease. As for
> 0.9.4, I named the installation file 0.9.5r1552 and uploaded it to
> http://prereleases.musescore.org.
> For ubuntu, Toby Smithe made a special repository to host the last
> prereleases: https://launchpad.net/~mscore-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
> The about box labels the version as 0.9.5.
>
> On the forum, there are a lot of questions like "0.9.5 is out!?" "Where is
> it ?" etc... and a lot of talking about 0.9.5:
> http://musescore.org/fr/search/node/0.9.5
> I'm not sure this is good. Apparently, people don't get that it's not a
> "stable" version. So I wonder if we should change the naming convention for
> prerelease, maybe get "0.9.5" out of the file name and the about box. And
> stick with "prereleases" or keep 0.9.5 but use "0.9.5alpha" or
> "0.9.5prerelease" ?
>
> Any thoughts ?


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Re: Finding a better naming convention for prereleases

Thomas Bonte
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- I'm pro for the use of the revision number, e.g. mscore-r1552
- Indeed, lets remove it from the about box
- I would not use alpha or beta bc these are typically used for the steps before the RC (release candidate). I'm more in favour of using dev. On the other hand, rxxxx is fine for me already.

wschweer wrote
Maybe using the label 0.9.5 for prereleases is a mistake.
I would prefer using only the svn revision numbers for prereleases,
like mscore-r1552. The "0.9.5" should also be removed from the about box and
the version string.
An additional "alpha" or "beta" tag could be a hint, that these releases are
considered less stable.

/Werner
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 09:14:35 Lasconic wrote:
> Since the release of 0.9.5, I built only one windows prerelease. As for
> 0.9.4, I named the installation file 0.9.5r1552 and uploaded it to
> http://prereleases.musescore.org.
> For ubuntu, Toby Smithe made a special repository to host the last
> prereleases: https://launchpad.net/~mscore-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
> The about box labels the version as 0.9.5.
>
> On the forum, there are a lot of questions like "0.9.5 is out!?" "Where is
> it ?" etc... and a lot of talking about 0.9.5:
> http://musescore.org/fr/search/node/0.9.5
> I'm not sure this is good. Apparently, people don't get that it's not a
> "stable" version. So I wonder if we should change the naming convention for
> prerelease, maybe get "0.9.5" out of the file name and the about box. And
> stick with "prereleases" or keep 0.9.5 but use "0.9.5alpha" or
> "0.9.5prerelease" ?
>
> Any thoughts ?


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Re: Finding a better naming convention for prereleases

Toby Smithe-2
Hi,

2009/2/25 Thomas Bonte <[hidden email]>:
> - I'm pro for the use of the revision number, e.g. mscore-r1552
> - Indeed, lets remove it from the about box
> - I would not use alpha or beta bc these are typically used for the steps
> before the RC (release candidate). I'm more in favour of using dev. On the
> other hand, rxxxx is fine for me already.

Though this change seems somewhat pedantic, as users are very clearly
warned by the websites that they are installing prerelease software,
and (at least in Ubuntu) the version number is suffixed with a "b" to
signify beta quality (which, generally, I feel the prereleases are), I
will gladly make it as uninformed users and hearsay are as much a
waste of time as anything else.

--
Toby Smithe :: http://fulltinreality.com

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