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-- This email was for Michael "ChurchOrganist" Cowgill, but I gather everyone would be interested in the answers so I send it on the dev list.--


Hi Michael,

As you may have read on the developer mailing list http://dev-list.musescore.org/Preparing-MuseScore-2-0-1-bug-fix-release-td7579158.html we are working on a 2.0.1 release. 

There are several "issues" that you already tackled or work on so I would like some inputs from you.

1/ Adding strings ensemble instruments https://musescore.org/en/node/56376
It seems some people are lacking this possibility. They apparently used to choose the Violins etc... from the instrument list to get a sound of several string instrument playing together. 

2/ Fluid soundfont. Where can I get the latest greatest in SF3 format? are you working on anything that could have big impact on users in the next week? What's the status of the "new piano" soundfont.

3/ Drumline soundfont. We currently have drumline instruments defined in instruments.xml but they are silent until the user figured out he needs to install the soundfont. If you consider the soundfont stable/good enough and if the licensing is good, I would like to include the soundfont in 2.0.1 or in 2.1 to make the user experience better. Any thought?

For both soundfonts, we could list the latest greatest in https://musescore.org/en/node/36171

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Re: MuseScore 2.0.1 - SoundFonts

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Regarding 1), that's really just about the instruments.xml, right?  Adding an entry for "Violins", using the existing "Strings" sound?  Probably "Violas", "Violoncellos", and "Contrabasses" as well, all using the same "Strings" sound because GM doesn't define anything better.



On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Lasconic <[hidden email]> wrote:
-- This email was for Michael "ChurchOrganist" Cowgill, but I gather everyone would be interested in the answers so I send it on the dev list.--


Hi Michael,

As you may have read on the developer mailing list http://dev-list.musescore.org/Preparing-MuseScore-2-0-1-bug-fix-release-td7579158.html we are working on a 2.0.1 release. 

There are several "issues" that you already tackled or work on so I would like some inputs from you.

1/ Adding strings ensemble instruments https://musescore.org/en/node/56376
It seems some people are lacking this possibility. They apparently used to choose the Violins etc... from the instrument list to get a sound of several string instrument playing together. 

2/ Fluid soundfont. Where can I get the latest greatest in SF3 format? are you working on anything that could have big impact on users in the next week? What's the status of the "new piano" soundfont.

3/ Drumline soundfont. We currently have drumline instruments defined in instruments.xml but they are silent until the user figured out he needs to install the soundfont. If you consider the soundfont stable/good enough and if the licensing is good, I would like to include the soundfont in 2.0.1 or in 2.1 to make the user experience better. Any thought?

For both soundfonts, we could list the latest greatest in https://musescore.org/en/node/36171

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I thought it best to reply here so everyone gets to see.

In answer to your questions.....

1. As you know from my reply in the forum the short term fix for the violins problem is to just add an instrument(s) to the Instruments.xml file. I would prefer to stay focussed on  the soundfonts at the moment, as I'm rather busy with paid work, so if anyone else is happy to take that on that would be great :)

2. I tend to produce a new SF3 version shortly before the next version of MuseScore is coming out, the maintenance version always being the SF2 available from my Dropbox account. In the past I have submitted it by means of a pull request, but I realise that impacts the GitHub repository in an undesirable manner, so am quite happy to upload it somewhere else if you can give me FTP access.

The piano is all but done. All that remains is for people to test my final tweaks - I have removed the low pass filter from the Global section of the instrument - and then incorporate it into the soundfont. Somewhere there is a spec of what category the extra GS banks are, I will try and source that so it goes into the appropriate bank number :)

3. The standard Mike Scorsch Drumline soundfont is now pretty stable, although the version with the extra cymbals I made for someone is not yet working. The problem is that I have no idea what licence if any Mike Scorsch has put on it, the notes in the supplied tutorial suggest that he has not put copyright on it at all, and there is no copyright information in his original alteration of Tim Brechbill's soundfont. Probably the best plan would be to email him, and see what he says - I will undertake that task later this week.

Have you a projected release date for the incremental update for MuseScore 2?

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Michael
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lasconic
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1/ I can do that. I think the main concern was the musicxml id. But as far as I know we don't use it yet.

2/ The dropbox link you are talking about is the following right?
I don't have shareable FTP space currently but I will think about a solution so we can always link to the up to date SF3 in the handbook.

3/ This is the lowest priority for me. But it would be good to have a plan to integrate these sounds in MuseScore. Being as a part of the default soundfont, or an additional soundfont. Thank you for taking care of the licensing.
The last version of the soundfont is here right?

I don't have a date set in stone yet for MuseScore 2.0.1 but looking at Marc's list of issues http://musescore.org/en/issue-hit-list-marc-sabatella I can imagine doing the packaging work beginning of next week.

Regards,
lasconic

2015-04-15 19:55 GMT+02:00 ChurchOrganist <[hidden email]>:
I thought it best to reply here so everyone gets to see.

In answer to your questions.....

1. As you know from my reply in the forum the short term fix for the violins
problem is to just add an instrument(s) to the Instruments.xml file. I would
prefer to stay focussed on  the soundfonts at the moment, as I'm rather busy
with paid work, so if anyone else is happy to take that on that would be
great :)

2. I tend to produce a new SF3 version shortly before the next version of
MuseScore is coming out, the maintenance version always being the SF2
available from my Dropbox account. In the past I have submitted it by means
of a pull request, but I realise that impacts the GitHub repository in an
undesirable manner, so am quite happy to upload it somewhere else if you can
give me FTP access.

The piano is all but done. All that remains is for people to test my final
tweaks - I have removed the low pass filter from the Global section of the
instrument - and then incorporate it into the soundfont. Somewhere there is
a spec of what category the extra GS banks are, I will try and source that
so it goes into the appropriate bank number :)

3. The standard Mike Scorsch Drumline soundfont is now pretty stable,
although the version with the extra cymbals I made for someone is not yet
working. The problem is that I have no idea what licence if any Mike Scorsch
has put on it, the notes in the supplied tutorial suggest that he has not
put copyright on it at all, and there is no copyright information in his
original alteration of Tim Brechbill's soundfont. Probably the best plan
would be to email him, and see what he says - I will undertake that task
later this week.

Have you a projected release date for the incremental update for MuseScore
2?

Regards
Michael



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ChurchOrganist
Yes that is the dropbox link.

I have this morning created a directory in my Google Drive for the SF3 version of the soundfont.

Anyone with the link has read access to that directory and can download the SF3 file, the licence, and the Changelog.

I have shared that with all I have in my Google+ MuseScore circle.

And am sharing it here too........

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7cZM0RQwkwST2tiWWFiaTN0WFE&usp=sharing

A caveat to making it generally available through the handbook is that adding it to the User soundfont directory in Documents\MuseSCore2\SoundFonts\ makes the soundfont twice in the list in the Add dialogue, once from the Application specific Soundfont ie ProgramFiles(x86)\MuseScore\Soundfonts and once from the user soundfont directory - obvioulsy I'm talking about Windows here but the same will apply to Mac and Linux but with their specific path structure.

Will keep you informed about the MarchingPercussion licence.

Regards
Michael
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ChurchOrganist
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ChurchOrganist wrote
3. The standard Mike Scorsch Drumline soundfont is now pretty stable, although the version with the extra cymbals I made for someone is not yet working. The problem is that I have no idea what licence if any Mike Scorsch has put on it, the notes in the supplied tutorial suggest that he has not put copyright on it at all, and there is no copyright information in his original alteration of Tim Brechbill's soundfont. Probably the best plan would be to email him, and see what he says - I will undertake that task later this week.
Just to keep you updated I emailed Mike Schorsch on 17th April but have not yet had a reply, which probably means it is in his junk folder.

I have this morning tried contacting him through his YouTube entity, and also no have him added to my Google+ circles.

Hopefully I will now get a response.

Regards
Michael
Regards
Michael