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lasconic
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Hi
I just see that you ask for bug reports in the mailing list so here is some things I notice.

1) No doted silence in musicXML import. Difficult to say more. But I attach a example file.

2) When I put a chord name, using Ctrl+K, if I look to the musicXML export, I see that it's printed as direction. I thought that chords has to be harmony element. Direction is more for, well ,directions, musical indication. Am I wrong ? (harmonies seems to be accepted as input)

3) The program crash : Open a new score with one staff. Insert a quarter rest by pressing space. Keep on pressing space to fill the score with rest. When the score is full, the program crashes with Runtime Error.

Maybe more coming if it's valuable (?).

Lasconic



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On Donnerstag 24 Januar 2008, Lasconic wrote:
> Hi
> I just see that you ask for bug reports in the mailing list so here is some
> things I notice.
>
> 1) No doted silence in musicXML import. Difficult to say more. But I attach
> a example file.

dotted rests are new in mscore and musicXML import/export is not implemented.
Should be work in next version.

>
> 2) When I put a chord name, using Ctrl+K, if I look to the musicXML export,
> I see that it's printed as direction. I thought that chords has to be
> harmony element. Direction is more for, well ,directions, musical
> indication. Am I wrong ? (harmonies seems to be accepted as input)

the current implementation handles chord names as pure text. Some musicXml
harmony elements are implemented for import but for export the mscore chord name
element must be expanded. This is planned for next release.
Things are a bit delayed because i'm not a professional musician and
especially chord notation ("Harmonielehre") is still a mystery to me :-)

>
> 3) The program crash : Open a new score with one staff. Insert a quarter
> rest by pressing space. Keep on pressing space to fill the score with rest.
> When the score is full, the program crashes with Runtime Error.

i looked at it and its already fixed in svn.

>
> Maybe more coming if it's valuable (?).

please!

Werner



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On Donnerstag 24 Januar 2008, Lasconic wrote:
> Hi
> I just see that you ask for bug reports in the mailing list so here is some
> things I notice.
>
> 1) No doted silence in musicXML import. Difficult to say more. But I attach
> a example file.

It was easier to fix than i first thought. It works now for svn version.

Werner


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That's quick :) and great !  I wonder when I will be able to test the fixes. Is the build on a windows box possible ?

Regarding harmony/chords/direction, I wonder how do you plan to support it. I take a look to Sibelius. You seem to follow the same rules they have (CTRL+k etc...). I'm not very happy with their way of dealing with chord names. They just seem to mix them with direction or comments. Then, the dolet* has to parse the text to know if it is a chord and output it as a harmony (and if not output it as direction). I think it's a pity they (sibelius dev people) don't consider to separate the way the user inputs a chord and a comment.
So maybe you can consider to implement a way to add a chord (CTRL + another key), then read the text the user gives and try to parse it as a chord, if no success print nothing. Or even better add a kind of chord builder (a dialog box to choose the root and the extension of the chords). Or even better support both behaviour :)
It's the way Band in a Box does (but they don"t have comments/directions). I attached a screen capture of their chord builder.

Hope I'm clear if not ask :)

Lasconic

Dolet : musicXML exporter for Sibelius from recordare


2008/1/24, Werner Schweer <[hidden email]>:
On Donnerstag 24 Januar 2008, Lasconic wrote:
> Hi
> I just see that you ask for bug reports in the mailing list so here is some
> things I notice.
>
> 1) No doted silence in musicXML import. Difficult to say more. But I attach
> a example file.

It was easier to fix than i first thought. It works now for svn version.

Werner


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On Donnerstag 24 Januar 2008, Lasconic wrote:

> That's quick :) and great !  I wonder when I will be able to test the fixes.
> Is the build on a windows box possible ?
>
> Regarding harmony/chords/direction, I wonder how do you plan to support it.
> I take a look to Sibelius. You seem to follow the same rules they have
> (CTRL+k etc...). I'm not very happy with their way of dealing with chord
> names. They just seem to mix them with direction or comments. Then, the
> dolet* has to parse the text to know if it is a chord and output it as a
> harmony (and if not output it as direction). I think it's a pity they
> (sibelius dev people) don't consider to separate the way the user inputs a
> chord and a comment.
> So maybe you can consider to implement a way to add a chord (CTRL + another
> key), then read the text the user gives and try to parse it as a chord, if
> no success print nothing. Or even better add a kind of chord builder (a
> dialog box to choose the root and the extension of the chords). Or even
> better support both behaviour :)
> It's the way Band in a Box does (but they don"t have comments/directions). I
> attached a screen capture of their chord builder.

i plan to implement a special ChordName element. Editing should take place in
a special chord builder. For this i want to use some code from the kguitar
project which also has a chord editor. So i think the first implementation will
support all chord notations kguitar supports.
Only a subset of MusicXml harmony elements will be supported for import/export.

Werner



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lasconic
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That's sound excellent ! Thanks for your answer !

2008/1/25, Werner Schweer <[hidden email]>:
On Donnerstag 24 Januar 2008, Lasconic wrote:
> That's quick :) and great !  I wonder when I will be able to test the fixes.
> Is the build on a windows box possible ?
>
> Regarding harmony/chords/direction, I wonder how do you plan to support it.
> I take a look to Sibelius. You seem to follow the same rules they have
> (CTRL+k etc...). I'm not very happy with their way of dealing with chord
> names. They just seem to mix them with direction or comments. Then, the
> dolet* has to parse the text to know if it is a chord and output it as a
> harmony (and if not output it as direction). I think it's a pity they
> (sibelius dev people) don't consider to separate the way the user inputs a
> chord and a comment.
> So maybe you can consider to implement a way to add a chord (CTRL + another
> key), then read the text the user gives and try to parse it as a chord, if
> no success print nothing. Or even better add a kind of chord builder (a
> dialog box to choose the root and the extension of the chords). Or even
> better support both behaviour :)
> It's the way Band in a Box does (but they don"t have comments/directions). I
> attached a screen capture of their chord builder.

i plan to implement a special ChordName element. Editing should take place in
a special chord builder. For this i want to use some code from the kguitar
project which also has a chord editor. So i think the first implementation will
support all chord notations kguitar supports.
Only a subset of MusicXml harmony elements will be supported for import/export.

Werner



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